Qantas Short Haul EA Update No 17
Negotiation progress
Two weeks ago we held another SH EA meeting with the Company. In this meeting the Company outlined they were seeking in principle agreement to a revised EA proposal by Christmas. The AFAP advised the Company we support having in principle agreement by Christmas, provided it is an acceptable EA that addresses SH pilots’ concerns with the ‘no vote’ proposal.
The AFAP focused on the guaranteeing of pay-rises derived from the proposed structural changes in further discussions.
In this meeting the Company made some progress towards addressing some of the pay concerns. Notably the Company acknowledged our concerns with the implementation schedule and the lack of trust in Qantas to deliver the structural changes.
Qantas proposed introducing an allowance on commencement of the new EA, to be paid each bid period, reflecting the value of the structural changes (DPC60, PCG, reserve credit) as calculated by Qantas (86 credits per annum being 6.6 credits approx. per bid period) until they are implemented. In return, Qantas proposed introducing the offsets from commencement, including the ability to recruit Direct Entry First Officers.
While some of this was a positive step in overcoming the lack of trust with the implementation schedule, it did not resolve the issue of the lack of guarantees around the pay-rises derived from the structural changes. We have discussed this at length in previous SH Updates available
here.
Qantas has also discussed with us its willingness to re-structure the pay levels previously offered, recognising that fundamentally pilots did not see sufficient value in guaranteed wage rises in the package, particularly those pilots with plans to move to LH within 6 years.
Qantas also discussed a concept of increasing the First Officer scale to 66% of a Captain’s hourly rate and removing the year 6 increment with the AFAP, but did make a formal revised offer. It argued that its focus was on improving the wage rise for First Officers as FOs in their analysis had not understood the first offer. Equally, Captains in Qantas’ feedback were satisfied with the previous offer. However, despite increasing the FO package it sought additional concessions from Captains through an expanded re-assignment window.
With this in mind, and in the spirit of good faith bargaining, the QPC modified our position on what we would endorse in order to make progress towards a negotiated outcome and sent it to AIPA and the Company last week. We have outlined our updated position below.
With the updated position that was sent to AIPA we extended another invitation to meet with their short haul representatives today. We received no reply to our correspondence or to our invitation to meet.
AIPA Reaches In Principle agreement with the Company
In our SH EA meeting with the Company today, we learnt the Company has reached in principle agreement with the AIPA SH working group this morning, thereby short-circuiting further negotiation on an improved package to be put to pilots. The Company outlined the contents of the in principle agreement. In our view, and based on the limited details provided to us, this in principle agreement reached with AIPA appears to be little material improvement over the agreement that went to ballot, and the lack of pay-guarantees appear to largely remain once items are implemented.
On initial analysis, we have noticed further concessions from pilots in return for minor improvements. We will make a thorough analysis of the proposed agreement when we have the details. We will also provide more details on the next steps and explain the various options and potential eventualities.
As pilots will see below, the AFAP’s updated SH position deals with many of the concerns the pilots highlighted in our surveys with minimal and pragmatic additional concessions for a very small and reasonable increase to the Company’s ‘cost envelope’. While the Company has firmly stated they would not increase this cost envelope following the no vote, the AFAP has received strong feedback from members that the current envelope does not adequately recognise the work of Short Haul pilots, particularly in light of the concessions asked for in the proposed agreement. AIPA did not engage with us regarding our position that we provided to them, and provided no information on their position. The QPC believes a united approach from two unions would have led to a better outcome.
Updated AFAP Position
The updated AFAP position that was presented on Friday to AIPA and then Qantas is outlined below.
The position below identifies the changes to our Alternative Offer as presented to Qantas and our members prior to the ballot. Any items not covered below remain as per our previous Alternative Offer (e.g. DPC, Flexi-lines etc) published in our .
Pay Table Increments
The Company expressed interest in increasing the FO’s percentage figure instead of including a year 6 pay bracket. While we acknowledge the year 6 pay bracket is theoretically not going to be valid for a great many FOs who plan on moving on to LH, we do not view this offsetable item as fair for Captains who would also be paying for it through an increased re-assignment window, but receiving no benefits.
As such, we propose rolling the year 6 increment into year 5 for both Captains and F/Os. Our proposal would contain a 5% jump between years 4 and 5. This would benefit both ranks, and increase the number of FOs that would stand to benefit from the change.
Our proposal also included a higher guaranteed remuneration increase than Qantas and AIPA have agreed for both ranks. This is driven by the AFAP funding additional pay rises through a 3.6% uplift in wages on commencement guaranteeing the value attributed to the changes to standby.
Years In Rank
We have moved away from changing the pay table to a ‘years of service’ model. In conceding this item, we are significantly reducing the cost envelope of our proposed package for the Company. Other items in our alternative offer were of higher priority to pilots as demonstrated through our surveys.
Other Changes to Pay Increments
The AFAP also have moved to MGH of 60 from our position of 62 strictly on the condition the other items contained in this position are accepted. We recognise the priority for members from our survey was to increase guaranteed wages through higher hourly rates.
Finally, we have adjusted from our position of ‘CPI or 3% per annum increases whichever is greater’ to accept 3% fixed increases. This concession from our alternative offer is also strictly on the condition the other items in this position are accepted.
Alternate Pay Tables
The AFAP alternate hourly rates are:
The above represents equitable pay rises across both CPTs and FOs. The rise in base salary is a higher percentage given the increase in MGH to 60, however we have elected to present this as hourly rate increases to provide an accurate assessment of the value of guaranteed wage rises.
SHEA8 Variation Offsets
Given the QPC’s concerns with the expanding of the scope of the SH EA via the EA8 variation (see further discussion below) without sufficient or acceptable pay and conditions for the resulting future A320 long haul flying, and the significant implications of the Direct Entry First Officers concession, we have proposed a 5% pay loading exclusively on A320 family international operations in excess of 4 hours, and accommodation and daily travel allowances (DTAs) for international operations as per the LH EA (EBA10).
The SH variation dramatically increased the scope of the SH agreement by removing the geographical box restriction. The enormous savings the Company have been able to secure through placing the A321XLR operations under the SH agreement have only been made possible by the concessions pilots made in the SH variation, specifically the removal of the geographical box restriction.
This scope change in the SH variation will result in significant savings over the A330 operation on long haul flying.
In previous updates we highlighted we would not accept the concession of Direct Entry First Officers based on the fact it has broad-ranging consequences for pilots across the hauls, and given its value to the company, had been insufficiently accounted for in the offsets. Importantly, we still do not accept this major concession without the above claim of 5% for A320 family international operations in excess of 4 hours and the accommodation and DTA entitlements for international operations as listed in the LH EA (EBA10).
This is a compromise for the AFAP. We acknowledge the significant potential consequences of further separating the hauls and the scope changes that occurred through the variation, and have found a compromised value that we estimate will be acceptable to SH pilots as recognition for this significant change forced through during covid under the threat of the outsourcing of SH pilots jobs.
Structural Changes
PCG
We highlighted again to the Company the imperative of guaranteeing the pay-rises it advertised through the mechanisms we have put forward. The Company initially outlined they were willing to consider widening the PCG window to 5 days, but would not entertain PCG from roster publish.
Interestingly, Qantas claimed the issue with PCG from roster publish was the increased contactability it would require from pilots if they moved to this position. However, Qantas simultaneously made claims for increased contactability elsewhere. This is in addition to maintaining its claim for removing the “tap on the shoulder” requirements to allow for the electronic assignment of replacement duties up until sign-off.
Collected data shows a significant number of changed and disrupted patterns outside 48 hours (the window originally proposed by the Company). We have therefore compromised our position to accept the contactability changes claimed by the Company in exchange for PCG from roster publish. It is worth noting Qantas already has far greater flexibility under the SH EA for re-assignment of disrupted duties than either Virgin or Jetstar. The acceptance of this claim in conjunction with PCG from roster publish would likely necessitate a ‘last x day’ call in requirement, similar to the LH agreement.
While it is positive to see Qantas’ now move closer to our position by pattern protecting disrupted flying due to training, this excludes disruptions caused by pilots’ route checks. We have further concerns about gaps in this improved PCG system and we will provide further analysis on this in later communications once we have the written position from Qantas.
Pre-paid Standbys
The AFAP claim to pre-paid standbys through a 3.6% uplift to salaries was again put to the Company as a means of guaranteeing the remuneration gains they were using to offset the wage freeze and other concessions. This function remains in our revised position.
We are open to other mechanisms that would ensure pilots receive all of the 36 hours per annum extra they have been promised for additional reserve credits. To date the Company have not demonstrated any other way they are willing to guarantee this pay beyond implementation of the reserve pay.
The position we have reached is a compromise, but ensures the majority of the pay-rises derived from structural changes are assured, and that there is a reduced chance the Company can find ways around them. This also represents a wages policy compliant proposal to fund additional guaranteed hourly rate increases.
Long Slip Credit
The Company has advised that they are opposed to our Trip RIG proposal on the basis that it would require a system change. Our primary issue with their proposed long slip credit was the slip threshold of 30 hours would make the function highly avoidable, negating the extra credit hours the Company advertised pilots could expect.
As such, we propose a middle ground position of an adjusted long slip credit slip threshold of 20 hours. This ensures the majority of international flying would be covered by the long slip credit.
Company Claims
First class duty travel
We remain opposed to the first class duty travel entitlement loss. We have reached this position on the basis that it still remains insufficiently accounted for in the rest of the package. The QPC have concerns that future introduction of LH style flying on the A320 will accompany an associated increase in longer paxing sectors. The Company’s resistance to increasing the ‘cost envelope’ makes this concession untenable at this time.
Direct Entry FO
As covered above, we remain opposed to direct entry FO unless the recognition of the variation concessions is approved in the form of a 5% pay increase for A320 family international operations in excess of 4 hours, and accommodation and daily travel allowances (DTAs) for international operations as per the LH EA (EBA10).
Contactability
Should the contents of our revised position be agreed to, we have reached the compromised position of accepting this concession. The agreement of this concession is explicitly tied to the other items contained in this position.
As members will see, this is a compromised position we have reached from our alternative offer (which was a compromise from our log of claims). We have negotiated continuously and in good faith. The movement on the various items has not been taken lightly and we feel this package will be enough to secure the support of a majority of the SH pilots.
AFAP Concerns Regarding Scope
The QPC holds significant concerns around the breaking down of the distinction between SH and LH operations and the broadening of the scope of the SH EA without appropriate pay and conditions. Our concerns are directly linked to:
The removal of the geographic box via the SHEA8 variation,
Direct entry B737/ A320 FOs (a Company claim in this EA9 negotiation),
The future changing nature of Short Haul flying from primarily domestic routes (as a result of the transfer of domestic routes to NJS on the A220) to regional long haul routes currently flown by A330 pilots on LH EA terms and conditions.
For an introduction to some of these concerns, please see the discussion paper written by former AIPA President Captain Murray Butt (
available here).
The QPC’s position is that the SH variation which varied the scope of the SH EA, and the EA9 offer that the company has proposed will result in regional long haul flying on the A320 being conducted on pay and conditions that are unsuitable and therefore unacceptable for long haul flying.
The limit of “short haul operations” under the Short Haul EA is now the range of the A321XLR aircraft. The removal of the geographic box has allowed for a change from an EA designed for a fleet performing predominantly domestic flying and only short haul international, to now covering a new A321XLR fleet which can perform predominantly international flying that would otherwise be long haul flying.
This is exacerbated by the potential for Direct Entry First Officers (DEFOs) being permitted under a new Short Haul EA. This allows Qantas to replace the A330 with A321XLRs and employ directly onto the A321XLR fleet rather than needing to offer satisfactory conditions to attract existing SH or LH pilots.
Throughout the current SH negotiation the QPC have been attempting to address as many of our members concerns with the current pay and conditions and domestic operation, while also attempting to address concerns associated with the broadening of the scope of the SHEA to include regional LH flying on the A320. The QPC’s aim has been to work within the Company’s wages policy (which we do not support), and remain within the structure of the Company’s EA9 offer.
It is in this context that the AFAP has tabled a claim in SH negotiations for a 5% increase in pay for the A320 family international operations in excess of 4 hours, and accommodation and daily travel allowances (DTAs) for international operations as per the LH EA (EBA10).
It is the QPC’s considered position to pursue improvement of pay and conditions on the A320 on international routes to narrow the difference in pay and conditions between the A321XLR and the aircraft it is replacing, the A330. We have accordingly linked this pay claim to acceptance of the Company’s claim for direct entry F/O’s.
In addition AFAP claims such as improvements to PCG, and the changes to long slip credit are examples of claims that have been made with the dual purpose of helping to guarantee pay rises that the company has promised (the most significant member concern as outlined in our survey data), while addressing future issues associated with A320 regional LH operations.
Questions
For any enquiries regarding regarding Short Haul bargaining or other matters at Qantas please contact any of us or the AFAP legal and industrial team of Senior Legal/ Industrial Officer Pat Larkins (
patrick@afap.org.au), Senior Industrial Officer Chris Aikens (
chris@afap.org.au), or Executive Director Simon Lutton (
simon@afap.org.au).
Regards,
AFAP Qantas Pilot Council
Michael Egan – Chair
Mark Gilmour – Vice- Chair
Daniel Kobeleff – Secretary
Michael Armessen – Committee Member
David LaPorte – Committee Member
Josh Chalmers – Committee Member
Rob Close – Committee Member